Suggestion for next gen GPUs Instead of GDDR3-GDDR5, use XDR2

I saw fermi is going to use GDDR5 memory and thats a good thing, but if you really want crazy speed - use XDR2 technology:
http://www.rambus.com/us/products/xdr2/index.html

30% lower power and x2 faster then GDDR5

by the way no metter what memory fermi would have i will buy it - thank you NV :P
*sorry for my bad english hehe

I wonder this is a Ram for CPU or Graphic card.

Well, first, it is “30% lower power or x2 faster then GDDR5”. At twice the speed it is much much more power-hungry…

Some good reasons for not using XDR2:

    Expensive.

    Proprietary design, while GDDR5 is a JEDEC standard.

    Is tied to only one supplier, Rambus. GDDR5 is produced by most DRAM companies, which compete against each other, keeping prices low and supplies high.

    Not backward-compatible. GDDR5 I/O can be easily reconfigured for GDDR3 or DDR3 operation, enabling low-cost derivatives and smooth transitions between memory technologies following market demand and price fluctuations. XDR2 uses differential signaling, which is a completely different and incompatible I/O standard.

    Requires twice more data pins than GDDR5 because of differential signaling, which more or less eliminates its speed and power advantage…

i gave you answers for some of the things at the quote

one thing i know for sure, ATI and Nvidia competing for speed and lower power and XDR2 is the perfect solution

And he just told you that it was OR, not AND

Im quoting from rambus’s site:

“The XDRâ„¢2 memory architecture is the world’s fastest memory system solution capable of providing twice the peak bandwidth per device when compared to a GDDR5-based system. Further, the XDR2 memory architecture delivers this performance at 30% lower power than GDDR5 at equivalent bandwidth.

and if its “OR”, its still better. they can get the same speed and eat alot less power!

NEXT TIME ENTER THE SITE!

It can be tricky to see through the marketing speak here.

The second sentence is saying that when both technologies are operating AT THE SAME SPEED, XDR2 is 30% lower power.

The first sentence is saying that without any regards to power XDR2 is capable of twice the speed.

Nowhere does it say it can provide twice the speed at 30% lower power.

its stil better, thanks for correcting me…

i saw it now since my english is not my best side.

BUT its still better, you can get the same speed for alot less power, if your including it at the 350GT GX2 you get 90W less power(210W total)

It’s going to be too expensive:

  1. If there is only one manufacturer (Rambus) then they can price it at whatever they want and you have to pay for it. Even large corporations have a limit to the amount that they are willing to pay for the extra speed. At some point, it’s more worthwhile just to buy some extra cards with the cheaper GDDR3/5 memory. If you don’t believe me, search Google for “rambus monopoly”…they were investigated by the US government a few years back for abusing their monopolistic market share when Intel was using them for the first Pentium 4’s.

  2. Nvidia is going to have to pay someone (or some people) to design new PCB’s that support the new memory. Those people don’t work cheap. The new PCB’s will have many more traces, so they won’t be cheap either. Nvidia will pass those costs along to the consumer, driving up the cost of the board yet again. Add in the overhead cost of having the new PCB produced (since we’re talking about only producing a few boards, there will be a significant overhead cost per board to set up manufacturing for them), and the price goes up yet again.

  3. Etc., ad nauseum.

  4. ???

  5. Loss. (i.e. not Profit).