meanwhile …in russia …
boycott all US? you sir are crazy.
This gets really, really desperate
Apple and Nvidia release the driver before us economy will Go down because of this
This gets really ridiculous. Correct me if I am wrong, but:
NV says something like:
“Well, uhmm, evil Apple says we can’t release! Our hands are tied,
we really can’t, the observable universe could ray-trace improperly and reboot!”
- or similarly sounding spin-doctorish nonsense.
Let’s try to filter out some facts from similar statements that float around and ask
some inconvenient questions:
How is it possible that github.com host so many repositories with regularly updated
and maintained kernel extensions without Apple going all gung ho/legal after them?
What secret special legal constrains do apply to NV drivers that differentiate
from all other vendors that can and are releasing their drivers for macOS?
What’s stopping NV from putting it on online on [Insert some source repo here] aside from
the fact that it’s not open sourced but stuffed with proprietary code?
How can actually Apple stop you from releasing it, are there like legal restrictions causing it?
Where can one read about it those?
If you got those super drivers we all eagerly wait for - then why not prove it?
Going further, Apple is hindering you from publishing drivers for macOS Mojave
but allows the same for macOS High Sierra, uhmmmm, right…
TLDR;
Since NV updated their WebDrivers for High Sierra since November last year when this
thread was started and (obviously) Apple wasn’t stopping them this time one (might have been
out of town for Xmas?) might speculate that the information NV personal posts is untruthful or pure BS in short.
NV: Stop putting your head into the sand and don’t spin-doctor around.
Prove us wrong. How about you ray-trace some reality based information
for yours truly, blissfully ignorant and unaware customers?
Actually, the most recent macOS driver Nvidia released was a few weeks ago, January 24th. Here it is:
https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/142147/
It’s signed with Nvidia’s developer certificate, meaning Apple has granted Nvidia’s developer account the permission to sign kexts. Apple doesn’t sign individual kexts/drivers, they simply enable the ability for a developer’s certificate to sign kexts.
And just in case there is still any doubt, I actually checked how the kexts in that link were signed:
$ codesign -d -vv /Library/Extensions/NVDAResmanWeb.kext
Executable=/Library/Extensions/NVDAResmanWeb.kext/Contents/MacOS/NVDAResmanWeb
Identifier=com.nvidia.web.NVDAResmanWeb
Format=bundle with Mach-O thin (x86_64)
CodeDirectory v=20200 size=53564 flags=0x0(none) hashes=1668+3 location=embedded
Signature size=4746
[b]Authority=Developer ID Application: NVIDIA Corporation (6KR3T733EC)
Authority=Developer ID Certification Authority
Authority=Apple Root CA[/b]
Signed Time=<b>Jan 24, 2019 at 12:25:18 PM</b>
Info.plist entries=14
TeamIdentifier=6KR3T733EC
Sealed Resources version=2 rules=13 files=0
Internal requirements count=1 size=188
It was signed by NVIDIA’s developer certificate, and NVIDIA’s developer certificate is signed by Apple’s Developer ID CA. When an SSL certificate is signed by a CA, it means that that certificate can sign on its behalf. In other words, NVIDIA’s signing certificate can codesign for Apple. This isn’t special or anything, this is what it looks like for any developer account with kext signing enabled. But I am just saying, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever here - Apple has enabled kext signing on NVIDIA’s certificate, and it is still enabled as a revocation would invalidate past signatures as well, rendering previous kexts no longer valid.
In other words, we can say with absolute certainty that no, Apple is not blocking anything. Cryptographic signatures aren’t backed by human power. They are not backed by a higher power. They are backed by the highest power - mathematics. If God himself were to declare this signature to be invalid, then that wouldn’t make it so - it would simply mean God was wrong.
Now, it is still possible that Apple might be withholding access to certain closed-source parts of macOS that NVIDIA needs to finish drivers for newer cards. That seems extremely unlikely, given that they aren’t withholding anything for every macOS prior to 10.14, and that it would go against their own best interests as a company.
Regardless, even if that is the case, that is very different from ‘blocking’ a finished driver.
Well, that clarifies some of obvious speculations - but why feed customers all the (highly probable) marketing mambo-jumbo aka bs that was posted around?
NV: Could you please come forward and clarify the whole 4 month long Mojave mystery or are you gonna let us pour more sour sarcasm here? Btw. greetings to the community managers and your pr team, let me know if you guys need some help!
What if Apple thread Nvidia release drivers and we will sue you.
I know this whole fiasco started because Nvidia wanted Apple to pay royalties for their mobile GPU on iPjones even though it wasn’t manufactured by Nvidia.
Patent wars.
Maybe there are legal reasons why they don’t want to risk it.
Well in the end Nvidia and Apple are going to be at a loss if they don’t get there shit together.
If your looking for an amazing card Nvidia Card to use in Mojoave here it is :) Nvidia Quadro K5000 for Mac Pro
In this video you can see That the performance of the Quadro for profressional programs will run circles around any GTX as it pertains to any professional programs that require video editing or rendering: ทดสอบการใช้งาน : GEFORCE GTX 780 vs QUADRO K5000 with 3D Maya 2014 ( English subtitle ) - YouTube
If you do not like the sound of his words. mute the sound and read the subtitles he provided. I highly recommend you watch the video from beginning to end. Also this same Quadro is compatible with MacOS Mojave and will outperform a AMD580 in a similar manner. Food for thought.
“amazing card” from 2011 with 4GB VRAM LOL
Just release the Damn driver!! I allready have All the necessary equipment bought and I just want them to work!
NV and APPLE, youre driving us crazy! Just state that Youre never gona release those so we can dump you for Good…
I just saw this job listing from Nvidia: [url]Senior graphics engineer Jobs in Santa Clara, CA, September 2022 | Glassdoor
It seems Nvidia wants to develop Metal drivers and haven’t given up on us, but the bad news is that the drivers shouldn’t arrive anytime soon since they are still trying to hire engineers with Metal experience.
Waiting for 10.14.4 and buy a Radeon VII, tired of waiting
Radeon ДАРОМ НЕ НУЖЕН, потому что дерьмо.
Hello to all!
I am new to this conversation, I want to know about mac os 10.14
Nvidia driver for my gtx860m.
is it already released or not??
it is a notebook!!!
NOTE : I doubt that if drivers for notebooks are ever gonna released by Nvidia officially. I searched official site but didnt find any mac related version compatibility. Kindly inform me as I am thinking of switching to Hackintosh…
it does not matter if it is apple or nvidia, it costs nothing to inform the really injured if you are working on publishing the drivers or not, no respect for those who do these two large companies, bad service to your customers should know that they are lost customers , when my macbook and my external gpu are broken I do not buy a mac and an nvidia card again in my life.
there is no driver yet, and as it looks… there wont be any at all… but thats just my opinion
switching to hackintosh wont make any change ;)
Vega 20 should be supported by Mojave since 10.14.4 Beta 2 (18E184e).
0x66AF Device Id is listed on “/System/Library/Extensions/AMD10000Controller.kext/Contents/Info.plist” IOPCIMatch.
Imo things are getting surprisingly shitty between Nvidia and Apple. While Nvidia used to be able to release the drivers immediately after release, now it’s been months and it’s just getting more and more ridiculous. I believe Nvidia have the ability to produce the drivers to be prepared for released right after Mojave was out of beta, and it’s been Apple who were sabotaging around. When the Pascals came out I initially thought it would take months or even years to support macOS but they completed them pretty damn quick (drivers ran perfectly on Sierra). I’d say this one is on Apple, and it’s just like how they’ve been messing around with the jailbeaking community on the iOS side and preventing third party repairs. If not for iOS development and Xcode I could have switched to Fedora or ArchLinux. :(
gogeta Why are you optimistic? Where have you read what’s new? Until today all the news is negative, is it really something that you think or do you have information that we do not know?
I’m not agruing with you about switching to AMD, but what makes you think that NVIDIA is a better option on macOS? I could agree that NVIDIA is a best CPU for Windows, gaming, 3D modeling, AI, etc. and it’s cool to have NVIDIA on macOS with dual booting to windows to have these advantages. But why do you think that anyone can regret from switching to AMD on their Macs? What benchmarks or arguments do you have to say, that NVIDIA will work better in macOS somehow? From my experience NVIDIA Web Drivers are full of shit and they needed just to have a little bit laggy, but GPU acceleration and there is no point to use NVIDIA in any way on macOS. CUDA? It’s absolutely useless on macOS. ABSOLUTELY. OpenCL and Metal covers all the needs and AMD does it better. So, what the arguments? Something from 2005 about AMD being a frying pan? It’s no longer 100% true.